
KEMP ORAL HISTORY ARCHIVE
Welcome to the Jack Kemp Oral History Archive, an original collection of spoken recollections and reflections that illuminate Jack Kemp’s public life, his vocation, the ideas central to his commitment to public service, and the political world in which he moved.
In the space of four years, Mort Kondracke (lead interviewer) and Brien Williams (Kemp Oral History Project historian) interviewed over a hundred people who were central to Jack Kemp’s life and career. Our goal was to enable future generations to learn about the American democracy of our time directly from those entrusted with its governance. Along the way, we gathered some fascinating insights about our country’s recent past, including Presidential politics, competition on the playing field and in the halls of Congress, and the power of ideas.
As Jack said time and again, “history matters.” We hope that these wide-ranging personal experiences, judgments, and lessons learned will also serve as a resource for carrying on the cause about which he cared so much: the American Idea.
We are indebted to the support we received from the Conrad Hilton Foundation, the guidance provided by the Miller Center at the University of Virginia, and the generous contributions of the men and women listed below who graciously consented to be interviewed.
Michelle Van Cleave
Kemp Legacy Program Director
Jennifer (Kemp) Andrews
“I remember when he was sick, and he couldn’t speak… so he would have to whisper. And one of our kids had an assignment, a question about what role did the radio have in World War II? …So this child called up Grandpa and he whispered… and over the phone explained for about half an hour, Winston Churchill and his address to the British people. It really gave us chills. We put it on speakerphone, and it was really moving….”
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Jim Mora
“We were good friends off the field. It wasn’t like we just got together and played together. I mean, we went out together, went to movies together, had good times in the fraternity house together, although neither one of us were what you would call frat rats or something like that. But we did live in the house some and were good friends there, and we just hit it off.”
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Joanne Kemp
"He was not self-reflective. He didn’t talk about, “Well, I wonder if I’m going to make this.” He just, in his mind, I guess, was determined what he was going to do."
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Joe Rogers
“We had an amendment on the floor of the House for the protection of Taiwan and its membership in the Asian Development Bank… the [same] day that they were trying to settle the Martin Luther King Holiday… And it was not at all clear how this was going to go, because if I remember correctly it failed the first time by five votes, and so it was shaky. So Jack was in with the Speaker and Mrs. King, discussing the holiday while this amendment which was very important to him and to Taiwan was on the floor, and he stayed in the meeting because he thought that was the important thing to be doing.”
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John Buckley
“I certainly understood New York politics, and then I’d just come fresh off the Reagan/Bush campaign, so I was current with the reporters who were covering national politics and current with all of the issues from the presidential campaign. But Jack in that first conversation was all in. No question in my mind. He was running for president, he needed somebody who could help him do that…”
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John LaFalce
“I remember in 1970 Jack and I were running for the first time, and we both were elected, and I was a little concerned. I thought, ‘Well, he’s a Republican and I’m a Democrat.’ I remember the very first few times that we were appearing together at different forums as elected officials, and Jack was unbelievably generous in including me in his remarks and including me in the efforts that he was undertaking. His was the politics of inclusion rather than exclusion.”
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John Mueller
“Yes, Jack didn’t think the cuts would materialize, and I think … that President Reagan actually made a note that he thought that Jack was being unreasonable. It was a three-for-one deal. What’s not to like? But in fact, Jack was right about it that the tax increase would materialize, but the spending cuts would not.”
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John Weicher
“Well I think it’s, we talked about that in a different context. It wasn’t very appealing to Democrats, and it was not going to be helpful to Republicans in their districts, particularly. The places that needed enterprise zones, the places that we identified as deserving of enterprise zones, the poorest places, they were in Democratic congressional districts by and large, and also in states where the senators were usually Democratic. So there wasn’t much in it for Republicans, and the Democrats didn’t want it at all.”
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Judith (Kemp) Nolan
“In high school I felt like I got more than I did at other parts of my life, but it was after a ballet recital, I’d get one on my pillow, “Great job,” even if he wasn’t there. “Mom said you did a great job and I’m proud of you.”
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Larry Felser
“Even the flights were using prop, and you didn’t get a lot of jets, so you spent a lot of time together. Well, Jack used to come down to my seat, looking for a debating partner, and I had a lot with him. He was fun to debate with, never raised our voices ever, respected what we had to say.”
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